Disturbing News

[Michael]

I don't know quite what to make of this. The past couple of weeks, my face has been noticeably red. Doesn't feel hot as if razor burned, just, well - red. To the point where a couple of people at work have said, "so, what's with your face?"

At first, I thought it was some new bath soap I've been using since there was some red on my forehead too (scrubbing too hard?), but it was mostly the shaven area. I went back to my old bath soap (been using it for years). Didn't seem to help. Made a conscious effort to apply zero pressure with the DE. Nope. Used a variety of creams and soaps (GFT, Taylor, MB, T&H, C&E, Tabac, whatever)...Still RED. BTW, normal routine is shower first, then NS, SN, across the grain and touch up if needed. Followed by cold rinse, Thayer's and aftershave of some variety. All has been fine for several months now, then all of a sudden...this RED thing!

So, this morning, I tried something desperate. [Caution...graphic mental images ahead. Parental control advised!] I shaved with a fresh cartridge in my old M3!! Not only did I have at least as smooth a shave as I've been getting with a DE, but I did it with ONE ATG pass plus touch up! Not a typo...ONE PASS, AGAINST THE GRAIN. No nicks, no nothin', just BBS. And no red! What??? Yes, cartridges cost more, but time and comfort are worth something, right?

Not sure where I'm going with this, but I guess if anyone's had a similar experience, I'd love to hear about it. Maybe I'll use the M3 for a couple of days and go back to DE and see what happens. I DO enjoy the relaxing 3-4 pass routine, but damn, that one pass BBS sure was nice! Any and all opinions welcome! (Just don't ban me for the M3 thing! :o)

[Queen of Blades]

::ban ::ban ::ban just kidding.

Wow! That is interesting and disturbing.

Keep us up to date when you go back to the DE.

[PalmettoB]

Michael, I don't want to anger the DE gods :scared003 , but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Sometimes when you hit a bad spot like the kind of irritation you were experiencing, you change one or other thing until you find the problem. Like you said, you don't have to abandon the DE altogether, but you might have to mix 'em up and make the cartridges part of your routine.

You don't mention what blades you use. Perhaps that is one variable to look at. (Try a sharper one like Feathers, change 'em out after only one or two shaves, try an adjustable if you don't have one already...)

Hey, if the M3 works for you, and you still like to use a brush and soaps or creams and like the shaves, use what works. But, yeah, I would miss DE shaving, too. Hope it works out for ya, man.

[Michael]

Blair, I'm USING Feathers! They actually seem better when they're a couple of shaves old, whatever THAT means - but I'm still red. I do have some Merkurs around here somewhere, maybe I'll give those a go. If that changes things, I'll look into Derbys or something.

I suppose I could always do three passes with the M3! :p

[Queen of Blades]

If you are interested, I can send you some SHARPs to try.

[Michael]

If you are interested, I can send you some SHARPs to try.

That's very kind of you! Thanks, JoAnna!

[PalmettoB]

Wow...I thought maybe you weren't going sharp enough, so you were kinda dragging the razor across your face to get close and making the irritation worse. Hmm...I know Feathers can be pretty erratic for me. One might work fine, the other stinks. And they do seem to settle in after a few shaves (weird, I know).

I have very good luck with Gillette Swedish Euro blades. Kinda tough to get, but TESC has 'em for $3.55 per five pack. That's a little high with shipping on top of that, but still less than the cartridges. I just order about five or six packs at the time so the shipping is worth it.

[sparky5693]

Blair, I'm USING Feathers! They actually seem better when they're a couple of shaves old, whatever THAT means - but I'm still red. I do have some Merkurs around here somewhere, maybe I'll give those a go. If that changes things, I'll look into Derbys or something.

I suppose I could always do three passes with the M3! :p

Have you tried a gentler blade, like an ip, or a sharp? I would highly recommend trying them if you haven't. Feathers are just too harsh for me.

[Queen of Blades]

Have you tried a gentler blade, like an ip, or a sharp? I would highly recommend trying them if you haven't. Feathers are just too harsh for me.

I'm sending him some SHARPS Bobby. :D

[Michael]

Have you tried a gentler blade, like an ip, or a sharp? I would highly recommend trying them if you haven't. Feathers are just too harsh for me.

Yeah, but what do I do with the 90 of them I still have?! :p I'm going to try the Merkurs I already have and JoAnna (what a woman!!) is sending some Sharps.

Maybe a Fusion?! :D

[Queen of Blades]

Yeah, but what do I do with the 90 of them I still have?!

Trade, trade, trade. Duh! :rolleyes:

[Mottern Man]

I can take the Feathers of your hands :D

I say whatever makes your shaves the best go with it

If it is a M3 then so be it. (its still wet shaving right) ya won't get banned for it............but if you use Gillette Foamy with it maybe :rofl

[Michael]

I haven't used Foamy in about 40 years so I don't think that'll be an issue. Besides, I have a zillion tubs of "the good stuff" and some very nice silvertips - so I can't imagine going there!

One thing I didn't mention...I bought the Feathers in early December and have been using them exclusively since then. Only in the past couple of weeks have I had this problem. I've used the Feathers in a 1949 SS, a '60 SS, a Slant, a 1906 Gillette Single Ring and the B&B Merkur HD (sorry, but that's all I have! ;)). Since the Superspeeds are supposed to be the mildest, I've been using the '49 lately. Doesn't seem to matter.

Tomorrow, the '49 SS, a fresh Merkur and maybe some C&E Almond. We shall see.

[Mama Bear]

Michael, how long have you been shaving your forehead? :D

[Michael]

Michael, how long have you been shaving your forehead? :D

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Smart ass...

[Edcculus]

I'll buy or trade some of those feathers off of you.

[PottyDoctor]

Michael,

What ever works for you man, whatever works! One neat thing I've noticed here at the Shave Den, so far, is that there are no Shaving Police here....shhhhh! :cool:

If you like the M3, then so be it my man. Use it when you want, how you want, anytime you want....and enjoy the shave. Hey...switch it up if you want....M3 a few days, DE some days.

I use my Sensor some days, not often but I use it. Hey Shaving Police....did ya' hear that? PottyDoctor uses a cartridge razor some days! :D

One thing I refuse to give up are my badger brushes and my soaps and creams....no way baby!!!

Like a famous man [could've been Elvis] once said....."This ain't rocket science....it's shaving....so lighten up and enjoy the ride!" :rofl

[Michael]

...bought the Feathers in early December and have been using them exclusively since then. Only in the past couple of weeks have I had this problem.

Hmm, just had a thought (doesn't happen often, so bear with me). The 100 Feathers from Cotton Blossom come in 10 packs of 10. I just opened one...a couple of weeks ago! About when this problem started. Perhaps it's time to try another 10-pak!

[Michael]

One thing I refuse to give up are my badger brushes and my soaps and creams....no way baby!!!

You got THAT right!

Like a famous man [could've been Elvis] once said....."This ain't rocket science....it's shaving....so lighten up and enjoy the ride!" :rofl

Agreed. That's what I like about this place! It's shaving, for God's sake! Just shaving!!

So how'd you like Pat's cheerleader outfit? Woman can't carry a tune in a bucket, but she's got balls, I'll give her that! :rofl

[PalmettoB]

Hmm, just had a thought (doesn't happen often, so bear with me). The 100 Feathers from Cotton Blossom come in 10 packs of 10. I just opened one...a couple of weeks ago! About when this problem started. Perhaps it's time to try another 10-pak!
There ya go...sorta like a murder mystery. "Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth." (Sherlock Holmes)

But in all seriousness, there could be some oil on, or some imperfection in, the blades you opened that might be causing your problem. Try out that Merkur, and then try another batch of the Feathers from a different pack.

Hope you find the source of the trouble.

[Mama Bear]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Smart ass...

Well, maybe it is ash Wednesday.... :rolleyes: :D

[PottyDoctor]

So how'd you like Pat's cheerleader outfit? Woman can't carry a tune in a bucket, but she's got balls, I'll give her that! :rofl

I'd heard all the hoop-lah for a few days preceding the game [Vols vs Gators] but she topped Bruce Pearl's little publicity stunt earlier in the year IMHO. I was more shocked by her singing than her skirt.

You're right, the woman can't sing, but to come out in front of an arena full of people singing Rocky Top takes something most of us don't have. I loved the classic cheerleaders outfit and the zany hat to go with it. It's all about the Vols in this town and Bruce Pearl and Pat Summit are doing the best job of promoting UT basketball I've ever seen here.

It's nice to have some unity of spirit between the men's and women's coaches and players for a change. Anyhow, enough talkin' about UT sports. I'm not a sports fan of any kind but there's been so much press about this, no one could avoid it.

[Smedley]

Hey, what she did worked. They beat Florida. :D

To call what she did "singing", though...:eek:

But she does have, er, moxie, in spades.

[PottyDoctor]

Hmm, just had a thought (doesn't happen often, so bear with me). The 100 Feathers from Cotton Blossom come in 10 packs of 10. I just opened one...a couple of weeks ago! About when this problem started. Perhaps it's time to try another 10-pak!

Michael,

I've got a pack or two of Feathers layin' round here somewhere myself. Layin' round because they are just way too abrasive for my sensitive skin. I had a red face for a while as well, back about a year ago, and I attributed part of it to the Feathers, not all of it. I was doing multiple things that caused mine, so I kept working to eliminate them. The Feathers are a great blade for lots of folks but they don't agree with me.

For starters I get several weepers everytime I use them and I never get any weepers with the Swedes, Israelis or Derbys. If I use a Feather two days straight...well, let's just say it's gonna' take a while to recover from the mayhem. Again, they're a great product....but not for me.

At the same time I was using aloe gel to try to recover from the bad shaves and come to find out I was having a reaction to aloe as well. I'm sure you can relate to how red my face was looking. And it was becoming harder and harder to convince people that my newly acquired passion for classic DE shaving was the best thing since sliced bread. People would look at me strange and want to know why my face was so red all the time.

I have sensitive skin so I've been red faced a few times since until I figured out the offending party. As far as blades are concerned, the Swedish Gillettes seem to be the sweet spot for me. The Israelis and Derbys are suitable [no irritation but not as close a shave] but do not excel as the Swedes do.

Good luck in resolving your mystery. And again, use whatever razor it takes to get good shaves and enjoy it. It doesn't bother me if someone wants to use a disposable or whatever, so long as it's a blade! If you can shave with your Swiss Army knife and be happy, then more power to ya! Just have a good time and enjoy the ride! :D

[Michael]

But she does have, er, moxie, in spades.

That's what I said...BALLS! :rolleyes:

[Michael]

People would look at me strange and want to know why my face was so red all the time.



Just tell 'em it was the JD! ::

But seriously, thanks for the thoughtful input - from you and from everyone else. That's what I like about TSD. I can say things like, "Pat Summitt's got balls" (or about nothing in particular for that matter) and no one gets their shorts in a bunch. And at the same time, I can post a question about a serious issue (to ME anyway :)) and get offers of free blades and well thought out comments and suggestions. Well, those plus things like "How long have you been shaving your forehead?" (can't remember which smart ass asked that...;)) That's my point, I guess - serious, helpful stuff while having fun at the same time!

2nd day with the M3 today. No red. Tomorrow or Saturday, I'll give the Merkurs a shot, or the Walgreen blades that are hiding here somewhere, or JoAnna's Sharps when they arrive (should I be worried? She has my address now! :eek:)

Thank you all again!!

[Queen of Blades]

, or JoAnna's Sharps when they arrive (should I be worried? She has my address now! :eek:)


The SHARPs are being held hostage until the Trumpers Coconut shows up at my door! :p

[Michael]

Oh you ARE a piece of work! :p

[Queen of Blades]

Oh you ARE a piece of work! :p

Thank you, thank you very much! :D

[Mottern Man]

Don't say it Will........they will kick you out for sure.:rofl

[Mottern Man]

Oh you ARE a piece of work! :p

Well yes I hear she is well built.

IM SORRY JoA I couldn't help it :: :: :D :D :rofl

Go Ahead ::ban me!

[Queen of Blades]

Well yes I hear she is well built.

IM SORRY JoA I couldn't help it :: :: :D :D :rofl

Go Ahead ::ban me!

Why would I ban you Will? :confused:

This stuff is why I keep you around! :D

[Michael]

Well yes I hear she is well built.


I don't get it. Not saying that she is or isn't, mind you. Just that I don't get it. :confused:

[Mottern Man]

I don't get it. Not saying that she is or isn't, mind you. Just that I don't get it. :confused:

Queen do you want to handle this one or shall I explain.:D

[Queen of Blades]

Queen do you want to handle this one or shall I explain.:D

No, I'll let you try and explain. :rofl

[Mottern Man]

Well lets just say I love American engineering.

Her Maker knew how to put a woman together.:happy013

[Queen of Blades]

I think Fergie wants to know how you would know. :rofl

I'd like to know that myself. :confused:

[Mottern Man]

I think Fergie wants to know how you would know. :rofl

I'd like to know that myself. :confused:


Mama Told me. :rofl :rofl :rofl ::ban ::

[Michael]

Umm, what happened here? Where are the mods?! What must everyone be thinking?! :p

[Mama Bear]

Mama Told me. :rofl :rofl :rofl ::ban ::

WHAT! Doc you are in serious big trouble.. I told you that she looked like Raquel Welch...

yer all full of it... ::

Fergie, stop shaving your forehead....

[PalmettoB]

Heck, the funniest thing (besides the obvious) is the fact that several of the, uh, "offenders" *are* mods....

[qhsdoitall]

WHAT! Doc you are in serious big trouble.. I told you that she looked like Raquel Welch...

yer all full of it... ::

Fergie, stop shaving your forehead....

Would that be the 1,000,000 years B.C. Raquel Welch? :D

[Smedley]

That's what I said...BALLS! :rolleyes:

Holy Cow, fella, I can now see this is the kind of rip-roaring board where a fella can come on in, shake the road dust off his boots, spit his 'baccy juice in the corner, and light a match off his whiskers before he shaves.

In that spirit, compadre, let me add the following:


poo
criminelities
shucky darn
BALLS!


Thanks for pointing out that my lingo was too refined and sissy-like for hyar, amigo.

P.S. Have you tried a nice pre-shave oil for your forehead? :rofl

[Mama Bear]

Would that be the 1,000,000 years B.C. Raquel Welch? :D

Silicone is Forever.... :D

This thread should probably get moved........ ;-)

[Michael]

Seems apparent to me that we have a :signs108situation here! Started out innocently enough, seriously in fact. There have been some insightful and useful suggestions regarding my "dilemma"...and I do appreciate those! However, in the midst of this, it's been a great learning experience in other ways as well. For instance, we've also learned that:

1) Pat Summitt has, um, boys... :D

2) One of our members apparently looks like Raquel Welch and there may have been a foreign substance involved,

3) Another is a smart a$$ (well, we didn't actually JUST learn that :rofl) ,

4) that I should use preshave oil on my forehead! :confused:

5) and that Will (and perhaps I) may be in serious trouble! :cool:

Have we gone astray? Of course we have, perhaps even overboard! Have we enjoyed it? I suspect so! Will some folks just shake their heads and wonder, "What ARE they thinking?!" Yup.

Oh well... :p

[PottyDoctor]

A totally edukashunal thread!

Only one thing lacking to make it complete.....a picture for those too young to know which sexy senior Mama Bear is talkin' about!

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2240/raquelwelch1nx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Queen of Blades]

Seems apparent to me that we have a :signs108situation here! Started out innocently enough, seriously in fact. There have been some insightful and useful suggestions regarding my "dilemma"...and I do appreciate those! However, in the midst of this, it's been a great learning experience in other ways as well. For instance, we've also learned that:

1) Pat Summitt has, um, boys... :D

2) One of our members apparently looks like Raquel Welch and there may have been a foreign substance involved,

3) Another is a smart a$$ (well, we didn't actually JUST learn that :rofl) ,

4) that I should use preshave oil on my forehead! :confused:

5) and that Will (and perhaps I) may be in serious trouble! :cool:

Have we gone astray? Of course we have, perhaps even overboard! Have we enjoyed it? I suspect so! Will some folks just shake their heads and wonder, "What ARE they thinking?!" Yup.

Oh well... :p

Lovely summary of this thread! :rofl

And no, no foreign substances involved. :eek:

[Michael]

A totally edukashunal thread!

Only one thing lacking to make it complete.....a picture for those too young to know which sexy senior Mama Bear is talkin' about!



Can there possibly be folks on this forum who don't know Raquel? Never one of my favorites actually, but she certainly was, umm, well constructed (maybe STILL is for all I know!). It's almost like asking if anyone recognizes...

[Mama Bear]

yeah, someone move this thread.. I have some Fabio and Sam Elliot pics I am going to post shortly.... :eek: :rofl Woohoooo!

[Michael]

Who??????????????

[Michael]

Umm, can you move HALF a thread? :p

[PottyDoctor]

Umm, can you move HALF a thread? :p

A thread divided cannot stand!

[Mama Bear]

aaaaarrrrggggggghhhhhhhh I can't help myself.... I hear this is what Fergie looks like... :D

[Michael]

Who the hell is THAT? Looks sorta like Sam Elliot, but I don't think I've ever seen him that young. Whoever it is, you are SERIOUSLY wrong about the resemblance! :D No, wait...yeah, THAT'S the ticket!! :rofl

[Michael]

Just searched a bit for a current Raquel pic. Damn, this woman is holding up REALLY well! She was born in 1940...66 years old when the first pic was taken (Sep 06)! Second is from 1,000,000 Years BC, in 1966!!! We should ALL look this good after 40 years!

[Mama Bear]

Fergie, you are so HOT!... ::

[Michael]

spare me.....

[Mottern Man]

Very nice Fergie. Makes me think of a movie :D

[Padron]

She looks good in the fuzzy britches, reminds me of Shawshank Redemption..Looks pretty good for 66 though, I wouldn't have guessed that.

Oh Yeah, take a break from the Feathers for a bit...

[Michael]

Oh Yeah, take a break from the Feathers for a bit...

Thank you!!! M3 for the last couple of days and something besides Feathers when I go back to DE. At least for now.

[Mottern Man]

Oh Yeah, take a break from the Feathers for a bit...

What are you talking about? Is this not the Guess that Movie Thread??:rofl ::

[PottyDoctor]

Thank you!!! M3 for the last couple of days and something besides Feathers when I go back to DE. At least for now.

Michael,

I was just wondering about your dilemna with the irritation. Have you found the culprit and is the redness gone? I was very interested to hear what you narrowed the problem down to, as I have suffered through similar problems, just not as long as yours seemed to last.

[Michael]

Ron, thanks for asking! Yeah, I found the culprit...WETSHAVING!! Different days, different shade of red. Some are only pink. This morning I used GFT Coconut (you know, the unscented stuff :D), '49 SS with one of JoAnna's Sharp blade (thanks again!) followed by Thayer's Lavender and T&H Grafton ASB. Not REALLY red (not like before), but still pink. Hell, it's still pink NOW and I shaved 12 hours ago!!!

Oh, and I didn't even get a particularly close shave since I was trying so hard not to irritate.

Maybe tomorrow, I'll break out the Norelco!!!!! :eek:

[qhsdoitall]

Sure it's not high blood pressure from trying to get a BBS shave? :D

[PottyDoctor]

Ron, thanks for asking! Yeah, I found the culprit...WETSHAVING!! Different days, different shade of red. Some are only pink. This morning I used GFT Coconut (you know, the unscented stuff :D), '49 SS with one of JoAnna's Sharp blade (thanks again!) followed by Thayer's Lavender and T&H Grafton ASB. Not REALLY red (not like before), but still pink. Hell, it's still pink NOW and I shaved 12 hours ago!!!

Oh, and I didn't even get a particularly close shave since I was trying so hard not to irritate.

Maybe tomorrow, I'll break out the Norelco!!!!! :eek:

Sorry to hear things aren't much better. It seems I get irritation easily, so I'm now shaving every 1-1/2 to 2 days and the irritation is practically gone. My job allows me to shave on an extended schedule like that; not sure if yours does.

This has helped me more than anything. In addition, I know which creams produce an irritation free shave, so I tend to use them often. I have grown tired of buying so many different soaps and creams and finding they cause irritation. I am narrowing down my cream and soap rotation to creams I know that really agree with me.

It turns out I prefer creams over soaps, since they seem to offer more cushion and/or protection. Kind of strange, when I used the canned goo, I would use only one kind [Edge Clean Scent Gel] and I was totally happy with having only one cream/scent.

I love my DE shaving, but I wouldn't hesitate to use my Gillette Sensor exclusively if that's what it took to get irritation free shaves. For me, it's whatever works!

[Michael]

I've about decided it's probably technique for me. The chin area is usually redder than anywhere else and since I apply lather to "anywhere else" as well as my chin, pretty much HAS to be technique, blades or razor. I'm using the least agressive razor I own, so I don't think that's it. Seems to be a slight difference between the Sharps and Feathers, though I'm not convinced the Feathers are the meat grinders everyone seems to think they are.

Too many years with the M3 perhaps. Bad habits. I actually shaved again this evening after that last post (Salter's Citrus, '49 SS w/ Sharps, B&B Finest and Musgo AS). Damn near perfect. Beat's me, my friend!! :confused: :confused: :confused:

But I enjoy it too much to give up! Who'd a thought we'd be saying we actually ENJOYED shaving?! Go figure!

[fritz]

I've about decided it's probably technique for me. The chin area is usually redder than anywhere else and since I apply lather to "anywhere else" as well as my chin, pretty much HAS to be technique, blades or razor. I'm using the least agressive razor I own, so I don't think that's it. Seems to be a slight difference between the Sharps and Feathers, though I'm not convinced the Feathers are the meat grinders everyone seems to think they are.


Well, it's been nearly a week. Any progress? Redness now gone?

As to technique, are you using a good prep? Have you read Kyle's articles at: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9745
and at: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4018

and have you tried any of those things?

I've also found that an "undercoat" of something with glycerin (could be just a few drops of pure gylcerin spread over your wet face, or a body lotion containing glycerin and other lubricants) just before each lathering will really make your razor glide without scraping.

And razor angle? Are you using 3-4 passes or trying to get it all in one pass plus a touch-up? That can hurt!

[Michael]

Thanks for asking, Fritz!! That's what I like about this place! :D

Better, not perfect. More pink than red now. And no one has said "what's with your face?" for a while now. Maybe they're just used to it? Practice, without a M3, seems to be doing the trick. Sharps and Derby's too, rather than Feathers. Haven't had a single nick since I got a pack of Sharps from JoAnna!! Derby's are even better!

[Mottern Man]

Pink huh? Try some rose soap to go with it. :rofl

Hang in their DUKE!

It is improving.

[fritz]

Thanks for asking, Fritz!! That's what I like about this place! :D
Better, not perfect. More pink than red now.
<snip>
Glad to hear it! But the question is not so much "razor & blade" but "preparation & technique".
:drool

[Michael]

The Derby Extras seem to have done the trick. Got them 3-4 shaves ago and things are much better now. After a week or two, I might even throw another Feather in there and see what happens. :eek:

As for prep and technique, shower first (usually), keep face wet throughout (warm water and washcloth between passes), assorted creams or soaps (always warm), 3 passes plus touchup, cold water rinse, witch hazel, aftershave. Very light touch, N-S, S-N, E-W. Every product I use has glycerin so no, I don't add more (I don’t even know where to GET more)! And in any case, the razor does glide, no scraping - at least not that I can feel.

Kyle's tomes? Yeah I saw them, but didn't really read. Scanned thru them and decided that that was WAY more info than I want or intend to process. Probably some good stuff in there, but not for me...

I remember when I first introduced myself to the B&B members, I made some crack like, "...you guys are NUTS!" Kyle was one who welcomed me by replying, "Thank you"! In that spirit, If I ever get that anal about shaving, I'll just buy a Norelco...or more M3 cartridges. ;)

It's just shaving, ya know? That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :signs089

[Michael]

Pink huh? Try some rose soap to go with it. :rofl

Hang in their DUKE!

It is improving.

And as for my wise guy "friend", above, I HAVE some Rose soap, thank you! Makes no difference...but it smells GREAT!!

[and don't you just LOVE the Duke of Kent thing?! PERFECT!!!]

[TraderJoe]

Michael - check this THREAD (http://www.theshaveden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127) out.

Just when I thought my shaves couldn't get any better, I just took them to a whole new level playing around with razor-grip.

I settled on a grip which is 100% contrary to everything you've learned elsewhere. (I now Hold the razor right below the head)

[Michael]

Yeah, I read that some time ago. Even tried holding the thing at the end of the handle. Lord, that was horrible!! Matter of fact, I hold mine near the head too. The razor, I mean.

[TraderJoe]

The razor, I mean.

Ah gee - thanks for the clarification :rofl

[Michael]

Just wanted to be clear. :D

[Belegnole]

Something to note..

As I have had issues with some products "RED FACE"

One other culprit is in your Shave Den....your razor! If you don't clean it often enough or well enough little :happy093 end up growing in what is a great medium for it. When you shave with the infected razor the little buggers get into your skin causing inflammation. I know its a long shot, but thought I would mention it....I have seen some of the razors people around the net use....lol

Oh, I am going to get the classic Barber Shop tool The Barbicide tower or maybe the Marvy one...now if I can only figure out where to put the thing...

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Something to note..

As I have had issues with some products "RED FACE"

One other culprit is in your Shave Den....your razor! If you don't clean it often enough or well enough little :happy093 end up growing in what is a great medium for it. When you shave with the infected razor the little buggers get into your skin causing inflammation. I know its a long shot, but thought I would mention it....I have seen some of the razors people around the net use....lol

Oh, I am going to get the classic Barber Shop tool The Barbicide tower or maybe the Marvy one...now if I can only figure out where to put the thing...


My husband makes Colloidal Silver. It kills bacteria and is non-irritating.

:-)'s Elizabeth

[Queen of Blades]

My husband makes Colloidal Silver. It kills bacteria and is non-irritating.

:-)'s Elizabeth

Got a link?

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Got a link?


No--he doesn't have a web site. He sells it to a dentist and some of his clients at the counseling center. I could PM his e-mail to anyone who might be interested. He doesn't charge outrageous prices like some do and it is good quality silver.

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Jo,
Did you check out the announcement I put in my gallery? Jack and I renewed our vows last year around this time. I need a better pic. of him, though. You can only see the side of his face, but can you tell I am in love?

:-)'s Elizabeth

[Queen of Blades]

Jo,
Did you check out the announcement I put in my gallery? Jack and I renewed our vows last year around this time. I need a better pic. of him, though. You can only see the side of his face, but can you tell I am in love?

:-)'s Elizabeth

Just looked at it.

Very nice! Congratulations, even if it's a bit late!

And, yes, I can tell you are in love. ;)

I see hubby is a substance abuse counselor. :eek: He's not allowed to sign up at TSD. We like our ADs! :rofl AD = Acquisition Disorder

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Just looked at it.

Very nice! Congratulations, even if it's a bit late!

And, yes, I can tell you are in love. ;)

I see hubby is a substance abuse counselor. :eek: He's not allowed to sign up at TSD. We like our ADs! :rofl AD = Acquisition Disorder



Now there's a disocrder I hadn't heard of. It's okay, though, really, because he is co-dependant.

:rofl

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Just looked at it.

Very nice! Congratulations, even if it's a bit late!

And, yes, I can tell you are in love. ;)

I see hubby is a substance abuse counselor. :eek: He's not allowed to sign up at TSD. We like our ADs! :rofl AD = Acquisition Disorder



Now there's a disorder I hadn't heard of. It's okay, though, really, because he is co-dependent.

:rofl

[Queen of Blades]

Now there's a disocrder I hadn't heard of. It's okay, though, really, because he is co-dependant.

:rofl

:rofl

[moviemaniac]

Michael,

What ever works for you man, whatever works! One neat thing I've noticed here at the Shave Den, so far, is that there are no Shaving Police here....shhhhh! :cool:

If you like the M3, then so be it my man. Use it when you want, how you want, anytime you want....and enjoy the shave. Hey...switch it up if you want....M3 a few days, DE some days.

Like a famous man [could've been Elvis] once said....."This ain't rocket science....it's shaving....so lighten up and enjoy the ride!" :rofl

hear hear :: :: ::

I can only second that - use what works best for you. As long as you don't start using foamed goo you won't be banned over here :rofl

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Got a link?

Hi Jo,
Here is a quick site I put up for the silver.
www.angelwingsilver.com

Peace,

Elizabeth

[IsaacRN]

THats the stuff that turns your skin blue.

[TheDouglasJBarber]

THats the stuff that turns your skin blue.

It won't turn your skin blue if you use it to clean, preserve skin care products or lotions, or if you use it topically. Also, the RARE cases where it turned skin grayish when it was injested were questionable. I have read that this was mainly with intrevenous use and with HUGE quantities taken over a long period of time (or when the particles were huge and the solution was very dark). Our silver is clear to pale yellow.

I take about 2-4 tablespoons of it a day and I have not had a cold or flu this year even though people sneeze, cough, and drool on me all the time at the shop, lol! A woman I work with applies it to cuts and swears her cuts heal much faster when she does this.

Anyway, I have noticed that most people I have met in the medical profession, aka, doctors and nurses, prefer the pharmacy for their cures (and those scary shots!). I don't, since I do not trust the government to keep me healthy ;-).

Peace,

Elizabeth

[IsaacRN]

I myself who is a nurse.....and currently suffering form a cold/flu/allergies No clue what it is.....prefer to go with the tried and true method. Im sitting around the house right now..moping around having people feel sorry for me...and just letting nature take its course :P

[TheDouglasJBarber]

I myself who is a nurse.....and currently suffering form a cold/flu/allergies No clue what it is.....prefer to go with the tried and true method. Im sitting around the house right now..moping around having people feel sorry for me...and just letting nature take its course :P

Well, I will be sure not to send you a complimentary bottle then :p.

PS, my sister is a nurse as well (25 years)

[qhsdoitall]

My husband makes Colloidal Silver. It kills bacteria and is non-irritating.

:-)'s Elizabeth

Just don't drink it. :D There was a CNN video other day about a guy who drinks it and his skin is now a permenant shade of blue. It's a known side effect.

[TheDouglasJBarber]

Just don't drink it. :D There was a CNN video other day about a guy who drinks it and his skin is now a permenant shade of blue. It's a known side effect.


I hope you don't believe everything you see on CNN. You know, I wouldn't doubt if the pharmaceutical co.'s promote documentaries like the one you saw. I have really researched this and am not worried, but the beauty is, we are free to take it, or not to take it, depending on our choice.

[Queen of Blades]

Did a little Googling using TSD's toolbar. :D Get yours today!

And found this (http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html). Which says there is 3 types of Colloidal Silver being marketed today.

and

Due to the high concentration of large silver particles, silver protein products are known to cause argyria, a condition that causes the skin to turn blue-gray.

Didn't look around much more, but you guys bashing Elizabeth's suggestion need to look farther than CNN or any news report. :rolleyes005 They like sensationalism, and not providing the full story.

[IsaacRN]

If it is on TV....i have to believe it.

[sparky5693]

If it is on TV....i have to believe it.
:rofl:rofl:rofl

[SSLSTudio...]

Hmm, just had a thought (doesn't happen often, so bear with me). The 100 Feathers from Cotton Blossom come in 10 packs of 10. I just opened one...a couple of weeks ago! About when this problem started. Perhaps it's time to try another 10-pak!

its very rare for Feathers to get a bad blade but they do exist, one time I remember using a fresh blade and it dragged #$$@#%^$%^#@$# very BAD BAAAAD Blade. took another and it was ok again.

you should definitly try a Derby Extra might be your ball game for inbetween sharpness.

[Austin]

I don't know quite what to make of this. The past couple of weeks, my face has been noticeably red. Doesn't feel hot as if razor burned, just, well - red. To the point where a couple of people at work have said, "so, what's with your face?"

At first, I thought it was some new bath soap I've been using since there was some red on my forehead too (scrubbing too hard?), but it was mostly the shaven area. I went back to my old bath soap (been using it for years). Didn't seem to help. Made a conscious effort to apply zero pressure with the DE. Nope. Used a variety of creams and soaps (GFT, Taylor, MB, T&H, C&E, Tabac, whatever)...Still RED. BTW, normal routine is shower first, then NS, SN, across the grain and touch up if needed. Followed by cold rinse, Thayer's and aftershave of some variety. All has been fine for several months now, then all of a sudden...this RED thing!

So, this morning, I tried something desperate. [Caution...graphic mental images ahead. Parental control advised!] I shaved with a fresh cartridge in my old M3!! Not only did I have at least as smooth a shave as I've been getting with a DE, but I did it with ONE ATG pass plus touch up! Not a typo...ONE PASS, AGAINST THE GRAIN. No nicks, no nothin', just BBS. And no red! What??? Yes, cartridges cost more, but time and comfort are worth something, right?

Not sure where I'm going with this, but I guess if anyone's had a similar experience, I'd love to hear about it. Maybe I'll use the M3 for a couple of days and go back to DE and see what happens. I DO enjoy the relaxing 3-4 pass routine, but damn, that one pass BBS sure was nice! Any and all opinions welcome! (Just don't ban me for the M3 thing! :o)

You my friend have to find a new site for M3 shavers. So long and happy trails. :D

[Queen of Blades]

You my friend have to find a new site for M3 shavers. So long and happy trails. :D

:rolleyes005 Not around here. ;)

Michael is welcome regardless of what he shaves with, or even if he decides to stop shaving. :eek: As is everyone.
Note the Cartridge Razor (http://www.theshaveden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11) sub-forum. :D Yes, it may be one of the least used forum, but it's still part of TSD.

btw, I can't wait till Michael gets back home after Christmas, to see the resurrection of this embarrassing thread. :rofl

[Shaving Police]

...I use my Sensor some days, not often but I use it. Hey Shaving Police....did ya' hear that? PottyDoctor uses a cartridge razor some days! :D

Yes, sir. We did indeed hear that. Would you mind stepping out of the vehicle, Mr. PottyDoctor sir? I'm sorry sir, but it seems you are in possession of an illegal Sensor razor. This is in violation of Delta City ordinance 5-2296/NA7. It seems you also use said instrument some days, which is a violation of directive 10-666/NOT.

While these are serious violations, your breathalyzer test is negative. And since you seem like a fine upstanding citizen, we're going to let you off with a verbal warning:
Use a DE. . .and stay out of trouble!

Have a nice day :)

Delta City Shaving Police
'to shave and protect'
:transport003

[qhsdoitall]

Hmmm.....methinks I need to pull my Sensor out of the cabinet. You go PottyDoctor! Don't let the establishment get you down. Be a rebel!

[PottyDoctor]

The Sensor...well, it just makes Sense some days! :rofl

But I'll never give up my DE! ;)

[Pauldog]

It's not that you can't get a very nice shave from an M3, it's that if you use it ATG every day (or even maybe WTG), there's a good chance you'll get irritated.

BTW, anybody see the new Dorco 6-blade razor?