Some Progress

[Bill]

Things just keep piling up, and I can't seem to get ahead. Maybe I should hire some help... :rolleyes:

At any rate, here are a few I've been working on. They are really still in the rough stages, but it may give you an idea what the ugly ducklings look like so far. Three are already promised to someone. One of the single-piece razors will likely go on ebay 'cause it's the only fair way I can think of to sell it.

I may put the others that are available on my "Private Stock" page of my web site which exists specifically for my past customers. This page is not linked from anywhere on my regular site. In fact, there are two razors left on that page that will get bumped to my regular site relatively soon. I only leave them there for a while to give my best customers first crack at them.

If any of you have purchased razors from me in the past and have not received notification of this link, shoot me a PM and I'll get it to you.

Back to the upcoming batch. Once these get finished, I may not be able to work on razors for a while. I have to build a shed in the back yard. I have to build a rock and tile BBQ area there as well. I have to build my hidden room for guns and 'n' stuff. And... I have to build bookcases for the library and a storage area in the family room for DVD's and the like. I won't be able to fit in too much razor stuff...

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All this file work will need finishing touches...
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These are the one-piece razors. I have one similar on my site (http://www.billysblades.com/Custom%20Stuff/Big%20Dipper.htm). One will go to eBay.
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More rough file work. Go to my gallery (http://www.theshaveden.com/forum/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=238)to see the rest.
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[PalmettoB]

New custom title for Bill!! The Man of Steel!!

[TraderJoe]

New custom title for Bill!! The Man of Steel!!

What, you don't like "Hot Later Hoarder" :rofl

Nice blades, Bill :happy088

[qhsdoitall]

Work is never done huh Bill? I say you hire someone to do the domestic projects. Make sure to "eliminate" the person that works on your hidden room. :D That way you can keep with the knife and razor stuff and we won't fee deprived. ;)

[xChris]

Cool stuff, Bill! I really enjoy your picture-rich tutorials and progression threads. :happy096

[IsaacRN]

Sooo...ummm.....which ones can we jump on :)

[jnich67]

Great work Bill. I can't wait to see what they look like finished! :drool

Jordan

[Bill]

Sooo...ummm.....which ones can we jump on :)Tell you what I may do... if I can see some interest... and, it's ok with Sparky and Our Gang.

I was thinking I could donate one of them to a raffle here on TSD. There would have to be a minimum of 100 tickets sold in 5-ticket blocks at $6 per block. To make it fair, I don't think there should be any more than 500 total tickets sold. Details later, but all proceeds will be going to the upkeep of this site.

What say ye? http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/tommy_cat_hanging_on_fan_sm_clr.gif

[PalmettoB]

If Bobby and the other mods approve, I really like the idea!

[Queen of Blades]

That is a wonderful idea, Bill!

I'm sure Bobby will agree to this. ;)

Thank you!

[Mottern Man]

Yar!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sparky5693]

Tell you what I may do... if I can see some interest... and, it's ok with Sparky and Our Gang.

I was thinking I could donate one of them to a raffle here on TSD. There would have to be a minimum of 100 tickets sold in 5-ticket blocks at $6 per block. To make it fair, I don't think there should be any more than 500 total tickets sold. Details later, but all proceeds will be going to the upkeep of this site.

What say ye? http://home.comcast.net/%7Echerylellis01/tommy_cat_hanging_on_fan_sm_clr.gif

Bill, that is an amazing, and extremely generous offer. If this is something you decide to do, just let me know how I can help, or what I can do.

[bg42]

New custom title for Bill!! The Man of Steel!!

I bet you can`t get him to ware a blue cape and red undies (on the outside )
Kind regards Peter Ps Puppa probably would though:D

[Padron]

Beautiful blades Bill, and a very Generous offer. Count me in for some tickets :D

Neale

[qhsdoitall]

Beautiful blades Bill, and a very Generous offer. Count me in for some tickets :D

Neale

Me too!

[minderasr]

Me too!

Me three!

:bounce015

[IsaacRN]

I am so in......LETS DO IT!!!!!!

[Iacchus]

Wow, thats really generous.

I'd be in for tickets.

[jnich67]

I'm up for it too! :D

Jordan

[xChris]

I'm interested.

[Bill]

Looks like it just might work out. Details can be worked out later. I have to finish them all first. Because of other commitments, it probably won't happen for a couple months. I'm only a little slow because I am so busy.

A little more info for the curious.


The one to be given to the Shave Den is the bottom one with filework on the tang in the very first picture. It is also the last pic shown of the four that gives a close-up of the filework. The steel is 440C stainless with a blade width between 7/8 and 8/8. It is 1/8 inch thick.
The two with filework thus far are out of 1/8 thick 440C stainless. The rest are out of 5/32 inch thick ATS-34 stainless.
The razor on the top left in the first pic is a 10/8. No wimps allowed on this one for sure.
The two similar blades in the first pic closest to the single-piece razor are between 7/8 and 8/8 using ATS-34 stainless. They will be getting filework as well.
The two single-piece razors are a full 8/8 in width and are ATS-34 stainless. I'm sure I'll gussy them up a bit. These are a joy to shave with, by the way. Don't even need to switch hands 'cause you can see what you are doing with it. Ergonomically dandy, as well. They are very comfortable to hold in many positions. The only concern for these is protecting the blade when it's not being used. There will be options for the buyer on that.

[SSLSTudio...]

Great offer by Bill, very nice and as always :drool:drool:drool

I shaved with my Shapleigh Custom Purple Scale by Bill today as always a joy to use the razor.

[Bill]

I figured I would give a short tutorial on how to do filework. Filework is basically just fancy jimps. They are areas to keep your fingers from slipping so easily along the spine as you use the razor.

Keep in mind, you will not be able to do this with an existing razor. You could do simple linear stuff with a thin cut-off dremel disc, but that's like putting that tinted film in your car windows that always shows the air bubbles. The razor you have has already been heat treated and is too hard to use this process. This razor hasn't been heat treated yet, so it is soft enough to use files on.

This first pic shows how I marked the blade with a thin-line permanent marker in even increments along the spine. I first make tiny dots at the desired distance near the edge for the length that I want the filework. Then I use a machinist square to extend the lines all the way across to the other side. If the tang has any taper to it, this does not work. In those cases, like this one, I eyeball it.
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Then I take a small triangular file and put a V on alternating marks along the spine. I do this to keep the round file that I will be using in the next step from drifting and messing up the pattern.
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Then I come back and use a round file and take away the material to the parallel marking on the farther edge. The parallel markings were put on before any grinding took place. The spacing between lines is about the diameter of the round file that you would use. The thicker the spine, the bigger file you can use. You can experiment with different distances and file sizes to suit your own artistic touches.
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Go around to all the marks and file all these half circles. It should look symmetrical... or close to it. I'm a bit off in a spot or two. I'll blame it on 60 year-old eyeballs.
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[Bill]

Oh, there's more to come. The filework is not done yet.

[jnich67]

Great stuff Bill. Thank you for sharing.:D

Jordan

[Queen of Blades]

Cool!

Thanks Bill!

[PalmettoB]

Awesome stuff, Bill. I like to see a work of art in progress.

[Scorpio]

fantastic job and thank you for sharing the "How to".

Raf

[Sejanus]

Very interesting! I'd love to see more of the from start to finish process. :)

[Bill]

I have to make an addendum to the statement I made about not being able to do filework on existing razors.

Dave Thomas, a knifemaker, does it and his work is fantastic. He says that he starts with a diamond coated file and then goes to carbon files to finish up. I am not at liberty to say exactly what he does because I do not have his permission to reveal his techniques.

The man gave me some fossilized dinosaur tooth to use on some scales. That stuff is really priiiii - tee.

He does say that it ruins files. One knife ~ one ruined file. So it can get expensive. I have patience, but not that much patience.

[Lyrt]

I’m in admiration of your craftsmanship. In our society of services, it is often frustrating to produce “invisible goods”, while you can produce things you carve with your own hands. And from craftsman you can become artist.

[Iacchus]

This is a great thread.

It is an honor to get to peek at what goes on "behind the curtain"

[minderasr]

This is a great thread.

It is an honor to get to peek at what goes on "behind the curtain"
+1 to say the least!

[Bill]

do i even want to know how much one of these bad boys run? or will i have a heart attack?
How 'bout $60?
http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/kid_laughing_at_joke_lg_clr.gif

$6 if you get the winning tickets... otherwise you may want to check the prices on my knives (http://www.billysblades.com/Knives%20For%20Sale.htm). They will be a tad less... with fluctuating generosity given to the word tad.

[Sejanus]

Very reasonable considering the workmanship as well as the quality. If I ever get into straights Bill I will be come to you for one. :)

[Bill]

Keep in mind, this is only one of the many patterns of filework that I use. For this one, I start out with a small quality triangular file and make a barb at the trailing edge of each half circle.
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Then, do the rest of them. Try to keep things close. *word to the wise - try this on scrap material first* This pic shows everything in the rough stages of filing.
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Everything is a little closer, but now I need to ensure all the barbs have a point and not a square end. The finesse stage is next. I try to get everything with the filework as close as I can get it before it goes to heat treating.
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Don't forget to add the filework to the bottom of the tang. Here's your $60 Sledge... :D
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This one is not spoken for, by the way. The only one not spoken for. It will probably go for $345. It's a 10/8's with ATS-34. Haven't decided on scales yet...

[Sejanus]

Beautiful work Bill, you really have amazing talent!

Really looking forward to more in progress reports, and of course the final product!

[Bill]

? you say $60, and in the next sentance... $345? now im totally lost...
I was poking fun at the person who wanted my $120 scales for $60. Shape up, termite. Just think about that $60 price tag for a sec.


What would you guess the steel cost is? It's about $12
What do you think heat treating costs are? About $11
What do you think the cost for those 2 x 72 sanding belts run that do all the grinding? Almost $6 apiece - I'll go through 3, at least.
What do you think the incidental costs like glue, sheet sandpaper, rod, washers, and the like are? I'd say about $7 to $8
How much do you think those splinters of wood cost to make the scales? Quality wood can sometimes run $35, easily, for a nice set of knife scales. Divide it by three, just for giggles. We'll say $12I still haven't factored overhead in the equasion. We'll just skip that part, also for giggles. My abacus tells me the total is up to $60 just for materials. Now... do you even remotely think I would spend probably 20 hours on something and then just pass it on for material cost? As John Pinette would exclaim, "Oh, nay nay!"

Somebody help me....

[Sejanus]

I still haven't factored overhead in the equasion. We'll just skip that part, also for giggles. My abacus tells me the total is up to $60 just for materials. Now... do you even remotely think I would spend probably 20 hours on something and then just pass it on for material cost? As John Pinette would exclaim, "Oh, nay nay!"

Somebody help me....

A lot of people cannot put two and two together sadly. It seems like people just seem to forget that the time is even more important and valuable than the materials involved.

Not only that but the time it took to learn how to preform the skill in the first place. Also let's face is, quality costs money. Rightfully so.

[CatMan]

Beautiful work, Bill! Thanks for sharing!

Just out of curiosity, may I ask why you don't use rotating tools to grind instead of files? Would the developing heat maybe have a negative impact on the metal's properties?

[gugi]

Bill,

This is some great stuff! I would hope some day I'll have at least one of your beauties. And I think taking the extra time and effort to show the process is awsome. I kept being drawn to these threads....

cheers

[CatMan]

Never mind! I completely missed the second page of this thread before I asked the question. Sorry!

[CatMan]

What would you guess the steel cost is? It's about $12
What do you think heat treating costs are? About $11
What do you think the cost for those 2 x 72 sanding belts run that do all the grinding? Almost $6 apiece - I'll go through 3, at least.
What do you think the incidental costs like glue, sheet sandpaper, rod, washers, and the like are? I'd say about $7 to $8
How much do you think those splinters of wood cost to make the scales? Quality wood can sometimes run $35, easily, for a nice set of knife scales. Divide it by three, just for giggles. We'll say $12I still haven't factored overhead in the equasion. We'll just skip that part, also for giggles. My abacus tells me the total is up to $60 just for materials. Now... do you even remotely think I would spend probably 20 hours on something and then just pass it on for material cost? As John Pinette would exclaim, "Oh, nay nay!"

Somebody help me....

345 - 60 = 285
285 / 20 = 14.25

Bill, you do this magnificent work for $14.25/hour? In my opinion, this is way below its value!

[Sejanus]

but personally, i do think 20 hours is a bit liberal... even with the custom filing, which would probably be in the top 3 for processes that took the most time... i couldnt see those taking more than 8 hours, maybe 10 to complete... of course i dont know this for a fact, it just doesnt seem like it would take that long... unless he is very leisurely going about it, which i cant see why he wouldnt... not like hes on a deadline working for anyone lol i would take me sweet time too ::

Until you do it yourself and see how long it takes you really can't say what you think it would take. Besides we only have very little information into what Bill does, so it really isn't fair for any of us to suggest how long it takes or what he should do or really anything on the topic. He is the expert, we just marvel at what he does.

A more common example of just how time can really stretch out even for something SIMPLE, making a chicken stock takes 10-12 hours and that is just simmering bones and vegetables! You rush it and you get something horribly bitter or unsatisfying. Just think of what would happen if you try to be quick with a custom straight razor. I wouldn't want to think of the result.:eek::eek:

[RJTrevino1975]

Very nice blades, count me in as well.

[Scorpio]

Well I obviously missed this one. Just so that there is no misunderstanding...This situation will not happen again in the forum I have been entrusted to moderate. Public flaming of any sort will not be tolerated at any given point in time. If any of the moderators or admin has to interject again measures to ensure the situation does not happen again will be immediate and swift. Guaranteed.

This is first and foremost a gentleman's forum. Nothing less than proper behavior and decorum is expected.

Raf

[sparky5693]

Sledge, matters like this should be discussed in private.

[Bill]

they are pricey because its a difficult task
They are not pricey... I can show you pricey.


but personally, i do think 20 hours is a bit liberal...
:angry032 What do I know... I must be doing it all wrong.


i couldnt see those taking more than 8 hours, maybe 10 to complete
:angry032...:angry032


unless he is very leisurely going about it, which i cant see why he wouldnt... not like hes on a deadline working for anyone lol i would take me sweet time too
:angry032....:angry032....:angry032

[Bill]

...simply conveying that i think you spend a lot of time on your razors... probably more time than necessary.
... And you've been restoring or making razors how long to make this assessment? Y'know, my grandma used to say that when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. ;)

It fleetingly crossed my mind that you may not be entirely knowledgeable in regards to this subject, so gifting me with uneducated criticism could, quite conceivably, be received as an insult. Continual belittlement regarding my work ethic will not garner you much credibility with those of us who do have a clue on what time it is. I would offer that you, not me, chill out and leave it alone. I invite you to land on someone else's potato salad. :D

[Scorpio]

Well, it is obvious that this thread has digressed into something not even close to the subject at hand. After repeated unsuccesfull attempts to redirect back to subject this thread is now closed. I believe that the information in this thread is important and informative so I am leaving pertinent information available for reference.

Raf

[Scorpio]

I am re-opening this thread in the best interest of the forum. If there is any indication that the thread is again going in the wrong direction it will be locked. Permanently.

Bill has a lot of information and knowledge to share and it is in this spirit that I re-open the thread.

Enjoy


Raf

[IsaacRN]

Good move....i was saddened to see it go

[qhsdoitall]

Thanks Raf....Post on Bill!

[Bill]

Here are some updates on the filework. I'm close to being done with all but one. Once I'm satisfied, it's off to the heat treating process.

Here's the very first pattern of file work I ever did on a knife. I call it, simply, the vine pattern. It's simple, but pretty classy.
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This is a view of the vine filework from the side. Attention to detail is pretty important when it comes to filework. Doing it properly can be tedious. I have to make sure it's right on before heat treat. Once it's 60 on the Rockwell C-scale... it's too late.
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This is a view of a longer stretch of "modified vine". It's on one of the single-piece razors.
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This is my half moon version. I like this one especially on thinner blades. It's actually pretty hard to do.
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This is a group of the patterns. The one in front is "modified rope"
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Here is another side view. The trick is to make everything look the same.
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[IsaacRN]

Bill....im drooling all over the keyboard.

Are these presold...or do we have a shot at buying them.....minus the one for the Lotto........

AWESOME WORK!!!!!!

[Padron]

Wow Bill, Those are Sweet!!!!!! :drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool


If any of your buyers back out, count me in...:D:D:D:D

[Sejanus]

Pretty damn amazing Bill!

[IsaacRN]

Remember i asked first :happy023

[PalmettoB]

I wish we had a "touchdown" smiley...those blades are simply amazing. Thanks for sharing, Bill.

[TraderJoe]

:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool


Couldn't have said it any better myself ::

The looks of those, alone, are enough to get me into SER shaving. Just to be able to shave with one of those :cool:

[gugi]

amazing :)
thanks Bill

[CatMan]

My vocabulary is not good enough to express what I feel about your work, Bill. WOW! It is truly breathtaking!

[Queen of Blades]

:drool

[coolsimon]

Well i enjoyed all the posts,till those funny comments started coming...right on Bill....

Seeing the blade work at different stages really makes it clear as to how it is done, as regarding the time it looks like it takes, man you must have the patience of a saint...but thinking about it and seeing it, its amazing how its done.....too cool...

Nice work bill

simon

[Lyrt]

World class craftsmanship. It makes me want to shave...

[Queen of Blades]

World class craftsmanship. It makes me want to shave...

Do it, do it, do it.....................:D

[Bill]

Bill....im drooling all over the keyboard.

Are these presold...or do we have a shot at buying them.....minus the one for the Lotto........

AWESOME WORK!!!!!!Thanks to all of you for all of the compliments... they are all received with appreciation.

All of the razors are spoken for. Most of 'em without pricetags on them yet. It didn't seem to matter much to anyone. All I have said to my customers is that I would try to keep them at or under $400. I'm gonna be able to keep my word on that. I know I could get more based on other custom prices around these days because I know my work meets or exceeds anything out there... but for some reason, running my prices up just doesn't seem right to me.

I have to consider availability because I'm not sure when I'll get around to making more. Because of that, one of the single-piece razors will go on ebay. It's the only way I can figure to be fair and not slight one customer over another. There may even be a second one that I will do the same thing with because the guy who it was promised to has been waiting about a year for it. He may change his mind... we'll see.

That leaves the one out of 440C stainless that I am going to give to the ShaveDen. I will finish that one up first when it comes back from heat treat. It will be a raffle-based affair. I think I will need to limit ticket sales so that everyone has a better chance at winning. Minimum buy-in is $6 for 5 numbers. The odd dollar is just to cover the paypal charges to my account. All other proceeds go to the Den. I'm even going to absorb the material costs.

I'm thinking 500 total tickets - any thoughts? Allow more? Maybe I should limit the number of tickets sold to any single person, as well, to make it more fair - Yes/No ? Anyone have concerns about how the raffle will be conducted?

[denmason]

This raffle sounds very good to me. The blades are beautiful Bill.

[IsaacRN]

No concerns Bill. Let us know when its up and running.

[Sejanus]

Indeed, raffles are always fun! And at the very least it goes towards a good cause and someone gets a great collectors piece!

[Padron]

Sounds great Bill,

I think limiting the amount of tickets someone can buy is good...It makes it fare for the person who may not be able to afford a lot of tickets and still gives them a chance to win.

This is an Extremely generous gesture, and is very appreciated by all :D:D:D

[Queen of Blades]

Sounds great Bill,

I think limiting the amount of tickets someone can buy is good...It makes it fare for the person who may not be able to afford a lot of tickets and still gives them a chance to win.

This is an Extremely generous gesture, and is very appreciated by all :D:D:D

+1 :D

[gugi]

not only generous, but also extremely thoughtfull of you Bill. I also like the idea of limiting it so that everybody gets more or less equal chance.

[PalmettoB]

Me likey. Thanks a ton, Bill. A gesture very much appreciated.

[Woknblues]

Staying tuned on the raffle. I could not afford one of those beauties at the moment, but when I can Bill, you WILL be getting an order from me. I cannot believe the file work on the handles and spines of those you are showing. Absolutely stunning work. Now I just need to have my first straight shave......:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl I might be putting the cart in front of the horse a bit, but I am just blown away by your work. :D One question to the mods so I don't miss it, where will I find the thread for the proposed raffle when it goes "online"?:drool

[rick]

Im guessing it wont be too hard to find ;)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Great job, Bill
A very generous offer ::

[IsaacRN]

Staying tuned on the raffle. I could not afford one of those beauties at the moment, but when I can Bill, you WILL be getting an order from me. I cannot believe the file work on the handles and spines of those you are showing. Absolutely stunning work. Now I just need to have my first straight shave......:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl I might be putting the cart in front of the horse a bit, but I am just blown away by your work. :D One question to the mods so I don't miss it, where will I find the thread for the proposed raffle when it goes "online"?:drool

Im sure well have it for everyone to see as well as some sort of announcement.

[Queen of Blades]

One question to the mods so I don't miss it, where will I find the thread for the proposed raffle when it goes "online"?:drool

I would imagine there will be an announcement on the homepage.

[bg42]

Bill excellent work, I can`t add anything except agree with nearly every one else's comments, A quick question if I may,when finishing off the file work do yo polish by wrapping wet and dry around the respective shaped files and work up to finer grades or do you just hang on tight and shove it in the buffer
I know it dosn`t sound like it ,but it is a serious question
Thanks for the tute mate
Kind regards Peter
PS if you keep turning out work like this , I`m given up ,taking my ball and going home

[Bill]

Bill excellent work, I can`t add anything except agree with nearly every one else's comments, A quick question if I may,when finishing off the file work do yo polish by wrapping wet and dry around the respective shaped files and work up to finer grades or do you just hang on tight and shove it in the buffer
I know it dosn`t sound like it ,but it is a serious question
Thanks for the tute mate
Kind regards Peter
Since anything other than intended crisp edges look really good to me, I do my polishing with the sandpapers as you noted. I only round off the outer edges of my scales. I also am not a big fan of mirror finishes for the same reason and that's because the buffing process rounds the nice lines of the knife/razor away. With that said, I seldom take a blade to the buffer for the filework. I will usually use the radial bristle discs to remove the discoloration from the heat treat process. A toothbrush and MEK works ok at removing a lot of the discoloration as well.

I don't polish the fileworked areas too much because then the contrast is lost and the patterns don't show up as pronounced as they would otherwise.

PS if you keep turning out work like this , I`m given up ,taking my ball and going homeDon't do that. You are doing just fine. Remember, I've been doing this a lot longer than you. Since '91. I'm bound to get a good one once in a while after that amount of time.

[Bill]

I sent the razors off to Paul Bos the day before yesterday for heat treating, so I should have them back in about a week... unless they get lost in the mail.

They will be an ugly brown/rust color when they get back. Paul, by the way, is one of the premier heat treaters in the U.S.

When they do get back, I will start on the ShaveDen razor first and get the show on the road. Now I gotta figure out what scales to put on it??????????


Purple Heart
Yellow Heart
Curly Maple
Cocobolo
Asian Cinnamon
African Amazique
Kauri
???????????????

[jnich67]

Purple Heart is always nice....:drool

I'm sure whatever you choose will look great though.

Jordan

[TraderJoe]

Cocobolo
Asian Cinnamon
African Amazique
Kauri
???????????????

Any of those, or "Tatabu"

Oh man, this is exciting :drool:drool:drool

[Bill]

Don't like yellow heart?
http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/bill/IMG_4655m.jpg


Or, purple heart?
https://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/bill/purple_heart_01.jpg


How 'bout oosic?
http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/bill/IMG_2973.jpg



Ebony?
http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/bill/ebony.02.jpg

[mrcleanhead]

I've been lusting after the Asian Cinnamon for a looooong time now. So I have to win if you do the scales in that. :D

[IsaacRN]

Asian Cinnamon

[Mottern Man]

Purple Heart
would be appropriate :happy088

Yellow Heart!
Last thing I need is a jinx. ::ban

[Sejanus]

Asian Cinnamon

+1

But really in all honesty any of them would just be out of this world. Dark woods are lovely though...

[Queen of Blades]

Can we see a picture of the Asian Cinnamon?

It sounds delicious. :D

[PalmettoB]

Black walnut...but I like the ebony, too. I know it might sound too understated, but the blade should be the show.

[Bill]

Can we see a picture of the Asian Cinnamon?

It sounds delicious. :D

cinnamon burl scales (http://www.billysblades.com/Other%20Goodies/4516.htm)

[Queen of Blades]

cinnamon burl scales (http://www.billysblades.com/Other%20Goodies/4516.htm)

Thanks, Bill!

I vote for those scales.

Perhaps you should start a poll, so everyone can vote in an orderly manner. :D

And then, you can just choose the scales you think will look the best. :rofl

[SSLSTudio...]

Thanks, Bill!

I vote for those scales.

Perhaps you should start a poll, so everyone can vote in an orderly manner. :D

And then, you can just choose the scales you think will look the best. :rofl

Or get going with the lottery now and whoever wins the razor can have his own preferred scales installed on it that way its a win-win situation .


The cinnamon looks out of this world.... :drool:drool

[Lyrt]

Ebony or Kauri.

[Bill]

Or get going with the lottery now and whoever wins the razor can have his own preferred scales installed on it that way its a win-win situation .
Real good point and that would probably work. The single drawback would be that the losers may not get as much of a kick out of following the tread as the razor nears completion. I'm mean that way...


Perhaps you should start a poll, so everyone can vote in an orderly manner.
That might be fun... unless I run across something that may look better, but haven't taken a pic of it yet. Let's see what everyone thinks. Only one choice allowed.

Hey, by the way. I see a star rating for this thread, but only one person voted. And that was probably me. What's up with that?

[Bill]

Here is the curly maple...
154


Here is a little variety...
155

[Padron]

How about Amboyna Burl :drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool

That is some beautiful wood :D

[minderasr]

Any one of the three bottom center would be fantastic.

IMHO.

:cool:

P.S. I voted Bill's Choice. Can't go wrong there! :D

[William]

I had a hunting knife with Desert Iron wood scales; I increased the weight of the knife substantially. Something perhaps to think about? Beautiful looking wood mind you!:rolleyes:

[DragonBoy]

I just have to add:

Sweet Holy Something!!

Those blades of yours is SOO AMAZING - WOW !!

And some yellow hear scales on that .. OMG !!

:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool

[IsaacRN]

They are all actually pretty nice :)

[William]

Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice Bill's Choice :bounce

[Joe C]

Truly inspirational. Can't wait to see the finished products. Stuff like this keeps me motivated.

[coolsimon]

well thats the one I voted for cinnamon burl, now thats a nice wood, I dont have alot of experience making scales but I love to see the patterns, thats why I like Laburnum...a definate pattern to it, plus I like have sides that dont exacly match ,pattern and grain , to me the way I like it if its for me then I go with individuality.

Refering to a post that Bill replied to, he mentioned that he sees a personality in a razor and matches it to scales of different woods, that I can appreciate and aggree with.

I have a few sets I will be showing soon but I do love Joe and Bills work...one day...hmmm

So there you have it I voted for the cinammon Burl cos its lovely...

[Bill]

The good news is that the blades are back. The bad news is that I can't work on the razor until my shed is done. The shed is about 80% complete. Seeing how only members are going to be able to buy tickets, I just know all y'all are recruiting membership at the other sites so they have a chance to buy some as well...

Hmm... wonder how many of :rofl I'll be seeing with that comment.

[mrcleanhead]

hmmmm that reminds me Bill, I have to stop telling people where you have been hanging out these days until after Thanksgiving. :rolleyes: I guess I can still recommend your work and your website. Unless of course you have any links to the drawing on there?

Hey do entries from your home state (no not Cali) get special treatment? And no I don't mean disqualification. :D

John

[Bill]

hmmmm that reminds me Bill, I have to stop telling people where you have been hanging out these days until after Thanksgiving. :rolleyes: I guess I can still recommend your work and your website. Unless of course you have any links to the drawing on there?

Hey do entries from your home state (no not Cali) get special treatment? And no I don't mean disqualification. :D

John
Actually, I haven't told anyone but the Shave Den. I wasn't looking for attention. Just wanted to do something for this crew. I see no one else has posted on the other sites either, though... that would cut the chances of winning, huh? Where's the love? :D No links from my site yet. Y'all think I should do that?

As far as Massachusetts... you guys keep voting in Kennedy... and you want special treatment?
http://home.comcast.net/~cherylellis01/anim/farmer_cleaning_up_sm_wht.gif :D

[seamus402]

The good news is that the blades are back. The bad news is that I can't work on the razor until my shed is done. The shed is about 80% complete. Seeing how only members are going to be able to buy tickets, I just know all y'all are recruiting membership at the other sites so they have a chance to buy some as well...

Hmm... wonder how many of :rofl I'll be seeing with that comment.

Can I come help you on your shed, I used to build power plants for a living, a shed will be easy.

[Bill]

Can I come help you on your shed, I used to build power plants for a living, a shed will be easy.
Oh sure, Jim... wait until I get to this point to offer. :signs062

815


:D

[Woknblues]

Can I come help you on your shed, I used to build power plants for a living, a shed will be easy.

where?

I used to do shut downs in WY, UT and CO....

[Bill]

Well, I started working on a set of scales for the Shave Den razor. They are coming along ok. Don't have pics yet... bummer.

[qhsdoitall]

Well, I started working on a set of scales for the Shave Den razor. They are coming along ok. Don't have pics yet... bummer.

Does this mean the shed is done? :D

[Padron]

Well, I started working on a set of scales for the Shave Den razor. They are coming along ok. Don't have pics yet... bummer.


Sooo, inquiring minds want to know....What was the material chosen for the scales? Can't wait to see them :drool

[Bill]

Does this mean the shed is done? :DFor the most part. The rest is painting. I can fit in a few razors now before I have to start on the furniture my wife says is necessary for me to get a move on.

Sooo, inquiring minds want to know....What was the material chosen for the scales? Can't wait to see them :droolWould that ruin the surprise factor? Should I wait for the winner to post pics? This will be done in a week, or less, by the way.

[Bill]

Oh, the scales are pretty much done. Unless I change my mind and go with another set.

[Issy]

where?

I used to do shut downs in WY, UT and CO....
Last shutdown I worked on was as a welder...in Jamica

Issy

[Bill]

My my... somebody's gonna like this razor. I thought about keeping this one for myself. Um ah umm mmm mmm! I will try to take a couple of pics tomorrow to show the progress. Of course, all this is for naught if the heat treat didn't come out right. Won't know that until the very last thing.

[Bill]

Here we go...

I had to take pics in my workshop, so they aren't very good.
877


I made the scales a little different...
878


Here's the match-up
881


882

[Woknblues]

That razor is looking mighty fine. I guess I will have to get used to people asking me "Hey, who is Bill Ellis, and why are you shaving with his razor?" when I win it..;)

[Padron]

It looks Fantastic Bill! I really like the pin detail too :drool:drool

What is the grind of the blade? and what size is it?

[TraderJoe]

Perfection!

I want it :D

[seamus402]

where?

I used to do shut downs in WY, UT and CO....
Built plants on 4 continents - Worked for an EPC Back in the 90's and for the last 15 years a Major Equipment Supplier.

[seamus402]

where?

I used to do shut downs in WY, UT and CO....

I was at San Juan Gen Station for 4 years in NM. The PI - Yeah! - I love the PI>

[Capt America]

First things first, high five to whoever the other person was that voted for Cocobolo.

Second, Bill... how do you go about just building a secret room in a house that's already finished?


BTW- that razor is beautiful. really hoping I win that baby.

[jnich67]

Superb Bill. That razor is going to make someone very happy!


Jordan

[Bill]

It looks Fantastic Bill! I really like the pin detail too :drool:drool

What is the grind of the blade? and what size is it?The razor is done, honed, and ready for the first shave by the new owner. The edge feels really good and should make a great shaver in any rotation. I do not shave with my razors as it would make them... USED.

It's a quarter-hollow 7/8 Irish point with yellow heart scales and a couple tiny embellishments.

I'll take pics tomorrow...

[IsaacRN]

im excited....and cant really sleep

[Bill]

All done...
895

896

897

898

899

900

[seamus402]

OMG!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[IsaacRN]

Beautiful.........beautiful

[Padron]

Incredible Bill!!

All the details are SWEET.....I love the wedge pin design and the emerald jeweling is a work of art......:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool :D


I can't believe some lucky person is going to win this :happy023:happy093:happy023

Too Cool.....:cool::cool::cool:

[Woknblues]

va va voom! hubba hubba.

[JMS]

You have the gift of understatement in your work Bill!!
Beautiful, elegant, and yet simple!!

Methinks you have the touch of a true artist!

Mark Avery

[CatMan]

WOW!!! What a razor! Someone will be very happy next weekend!
It's a marvelous job, Bill! And BTW, you do take excellent photos as well!

[gugi]

ah - i'm falling in love.... :)
when bill had the scales choices, i thought the yellow heart would be my last choice, but i did vote for bill's choice. now i know i was right.... to vote the way i voted that is. i really like how it is simple and understated. i keep thinking it's got somewhat of a wild west character to it, can't really explain why...

well, that is some great work bill! simply outstanding!





sooo, is it raffle time yet?

[Sejanus]

Wow! Looks very nice! Well done Bill!

[bg42]

We use only one word to describe something like this in Aus " RIPPER " that about says it all ,unless I have to write it fifty times ofcourse
well done Bill
Kind regards Peter

[Baloosh]

Simply and utterly amazing.

Well done Bill. :cool::cool:

[qhsdoitall]

Fantastic Job Bill. I really need to win this razor. It is just what I've been looking for spec wise. Damn. Now I have to go to church Saturday morning and light a few candles and say a few prayers. Oh, and a conversation or two with the Shave Gods. I'm trying to cover all the bases. Maybe I can pretend St. George is Patron Saint of Wet Shaving. He's already got England, Boy Scouts and Horse Riders under his belt. Now where is my Bill Ellis Voodoo doll. I need to practice it picking my name out of a hat. :D

[mrcleanhead]

Fantastic Job Bill. I really need to win this razor. It is just what I've been looking for spec wise. Damn. Now I have to go to church Saturday morning and light a few candles and say a few prayers. Oh, and a conversation or two with the Shave Gods. I'm trying to cover all the bases. Maybe I can pretend St. George is Patron Saint of Wet Shaving. He's already got England, Boy Scouts and Horse Riders under his belt. Now where is my Bill Ellis Voodoo doll. I need to practice it picking my name out of a hat. :D

"You cannot petition the Lord with prayer!" mr mojo risin :rolleyes:

John

[jlander]

The razor is done, honed, and ready for the first shave by the new owner. The edge feels really good and should make a great shaver in any rotation. I do not shave with my razors as it would make them... USED.

It's a quarter-hollow 7/8 Irish point with yellow heart scales and a couple tiny embellishments.

I'll take pics tomorrow...

First time I've heard of an Irish Point. Interesting shape. Beautiful Blade.

[Bill]

First time I've heard of an Irish Point...
Getting to Know Your Straight Razors by Phillip L. Krumholz. 1999 pp21

That's ok though, 'cause I can't find any references in print that say it's a French tip. :eek:

[Bill]

Fantastic Job Bill. I really need to win this razor. It is just what I've been looking for spec wise. Damn. Now I have to go to church Saturday morning and light a few candles and say a few prayers. Oh, and a conversation or two with the Shave Gods. I'm trying to cover all the bases. Maybe I can pretend St. George is Patron Saint of Wet Shaving. He's already got England, Boy Scouts and Horse Riders under his belt. Now where is my Bill Ellis Voodoo doll. I need to practice it picking my name out of a hat. :DIf you used the voodoo doll, I'm keepin' it... :p

[bg42]

If you used the voodoo doll, I'm keeping' it... :p

Now you know what that pain in the A? ,I mean neck was.
I wonder if that constitutes a re- draw for the top prize because of unfair advantage , maybe we should have a vote on it
Just kidding:rofl
Kind regards Peter
PS I hope Bill dosen`t have to put up with a niggling pain from now on every time our friend is stropping his new razor

[qhsdoitall]

If you used the voodoo doll, I'm keepin' it... :p

Nope, I didn't get the chance. I've been way too busy lately. Good thing huh? :D

[Padron]

Getting to Know Your Straight Razors by Phillip L. Krumholz. 1999 pp21

That's ok though, 'cause I can't find any references in print that say it's a French tip. :eek:


LOL, that is too funny Bill, and all the French razors ( not a lot ) I have seen or own.....none of them have the so called "French Point / Tip"

That book sounds interesting, may have to check it out. Thanks!

[netsurfr]

Just wanted to express my humble appreciation for your fine craftsmanship and dedication to the art and science of making straights. Hope to own one of your blades at some point in the future.

[netsurfr]

Yeah, what is asian cinnamon look like?

[Kenrup]

LOL, that is too funny Bill, and all the French razors ( not a lot ) I have seen or own.....none of them have the so called "French Point / Tip"

That book sounds interesting, may have to check it out. Thanks!

You know the French. It's like French Fries right?

[bjrn]

Yeah, and the point should be called Freedom Point... right? :P

[Queen of Blades]

Welcome to The Shave Den, netsurfr!

[iron maiden]

Bill...that is gorgeous.